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i did this a few years ago, but i should update it: "What have you used Lightning to buy?". My answer is now: "drinks at bars/events, food (dinner) including sharing the bill with other people, hotel rooms, flights, cellphone bills (both the normal type and esims), electricity bills, water bills, internet bills, taxis, takeaways, groceries (last 3 via gift cards) VPS, VPN, charity donations, trades with friends (usually for USD cash), topping up a debit card, payment for nostr relays, zaps on nostr and LLM model tokens." Probably missed a good few miscellaneous 'buy a thing', but that covers a lot. I have to go via bitrefill for a couple of these, especially internet and electricity bills (in El Salvador; which is also where I got the debit card I can top up with Lightning).

I should also say that 'flights and hotels' being higher cost items, are almost always with btc mainchain or via some other method, but I think I used lightning once or twice here (and will always choose it if I can!). And lastly I should say that having done this for years, with a self custodial wallet (I used Electrum a bit but I mostly used Phoenix), I basically never have payment routing failures, that used to happen all the time pre-2023.

But apparently I'm all alone because nobody uses Lightning.

i did this a few years ago, but i should update it: "What have you used Lightning to buy?". My answer is now: "drinks at bars/events, food (dinner) including sharing the bill with other people, hotel rooms, flights, cellphone bills (both the normal type and esims), electricity bi

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I've used lightning for lots of things but my experience has been that to work, it had to be used either from a custodial app (ecash mints) or a wallet that used liquid on the backend. I can't count the number of failed routes I ran into with self-sovereign options (my own node).

Would you mind saying which lightning application you like/recommend for these buys?

I've used lightning for lots of things but my experience has been that to work, it had to be used either from a custodial app (ecash mints) or a wallet that used liquid on the backend. I can't count the number of failed routes I ran into with self-sovereign options (my own node).

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Phoenix because it's reliable while self custodial.

In the last year or two I haven't even bothered to run my own LN node at home (or elsewhere). I used to, but I don't have the motivation or the organization to do it properly. Which is a shame, but shrug.

Also my case is not normal, I spent the last few years in El Salvador mostly.

Phoenix because it's reliable while self custodial.

In the last year or two I haven't even bothered to run my own LN node at home (or elsewhere). I used to, but I don't have the motivation or the organization to do it properly. Which is a shame, but shrug.

Also my case is not n

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My understanding of phoenix is that by using acinq's node, we lose a good part of the privacy that lightning would otherwise give us. Also, that if something happens to their node, the procedure to get our funds back is pretty complicated (for a non-dev). Would you say those are fair assessments?

My understanding of phoenix is that by using acinq's node, we lose a good part of the privacy that lightning would otherwise give us. Also, that if something happens to their node, the procedure to get our funds back is pretty complicated (for a non-dev). Would you say those are

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Yep you trade privacy off for reliability. Only partly of course, but you do. Not a panacea but way better than custodial. That's how I see it. Re: complicated to get funds back, I don't think so, but I'm not sure, haven't tried it recently. There is a close channel option that presumably force closes as you'd expect.

Yep you trade privacy off for reliability. Only partly of course, but you do. Not a panacea but way better than custodial. That's how I see it. Re: complicated to get funds back, I don't think so, but I'm not sure, haven't tried it recently. There is a close channel option that p